Decoder with Nilay Patel

Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, discusses the company’s new "Humanist AI Code of Conduct" and argues that AI safety requires both alignment…

Comedian Adam Conover discusses the collapse of traditional TV and the rise of YouTube as a dominant, yet inequitable, gatekeeper for entertainment.

In this mailbag episode, Nilay Patel and the production team address listener feedback on his "Software Brain" essay, debating whether AI should replace traditional user interfaces or complement them.

Eliott talks with Sonos CEO Tom Conrad about recovering from the 2024 app crisis and launching Sonos 27, a new software platform unifying hardware and software.

Nilay Patel interviews New York Governor Kathy Hochul on tech policy, covering the Meta teen safety settlement, 3D-printed ghost gun bans, and a moratorium on hyperscale data centers.

Nilay Patel interviews Hayden Field about Greg Brockman’s consolidation of power at OpenAI following massive executive turnover.

Eliot Peled interviews GoFundMe CEO Tim Cadogan about the platform’s evolution into a "load-bearing" part of American culture, particularly as a proxy for the broken healthcare system.

Neil Patel and Verge AI reporter Robert Hart discuss the existential crisis in mathematics following OpenAI’s Astra model solving ten long-standing problems.

Nilay Patel interviews Ben Smith, Editor-in-Chief of Semaphore, about his shift from chasing viral traffic to building a profitable, "anti-scale" news organization.

Nilay Patel interviews Verge AI reporter Hayden Field about Google’s major DeepMind reorganization, including Jeff Dean’s departure and Demis Hassabis’s shift to research.

Bose CEO Lila Snyder discusses the company’s strategic shift from a single-brand consumer hardware maker to a multi-brand entity including luxury acquisitions like McIntosh and Sonus Faber.

Nilay Patel interviews Verge policy reporter Gabby DeValle about the bipartisan backlash against AI data centers, exemplified by protests in Florida’s Hernando County.

Nilay Patel interviews Tony Schneider, the new CEO of Blue Sky, about balancing the company’s dual focus on its consumer app and the open AT Protocol.

Eli Patel interviews Altana CEO Evan Smith about how agentic AI is transforming global supply chain management amid escalating trade chaos and tariffs.

The Verge’s Hayden Field discusses Apple’s trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI, alleging the AI firm stole hardware designs from former employees like Tang Tan.

Nilay Patel interviews historian Jill Lepore about her book, *The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State*, which argues that quantification and big tech have eroded democratic institutions.

Neil Patel interviews Proton CTO Bart Butler on how the company balances privacy promises with the need to scale against Big Tech.

Nilay Patel interviews NVIDIA’s head of automotive, Jinju Wu, about the shift toward AI-defined vehicles and centralized computing architectures.

Neil Patel and Peter Kafka discuss Comcast’s split into separate broadband and entertainment entities, marking the end of the failed "content plus pipes" strategy.

In a special episode recorded at Cannes Lions, Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel interviews Ali Behrman and Raina Penchansky, co-heads of UTA’s Creators Division.

Decoder host Nilay Patel interviews Amy Lanzi, CEO of Digitas North America, at the Cannes Lions festival about the advertising industry's shift toward AI and data-driven results.

Eli Patel interviews Roger Daly, CEO of the newly merged Weber-Blackstone, discussing the integration of the legacy grill brand with the viral griddle company.

Decoder host Nilay Patel presents an exclusive interview between Joanna Stern and Ford CEO Jim Farley, recorded in September 2023.

Patreon CEO Jack Conte joins Nilay Patel to discuss the platform’s strategic pivot from a payment processor to a direct competitor to social media,…

Nilay Patel and Hayden Field dissect the chaotic shutdown of Anthropic’s Claude Fable 5 model following abrupt U.

Nilay Patel interviews Skydio CEO Adam Bry about the company’s shift to autonomous enterprise drones and U.

Nilay Patel shares a Channels interview with Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch, who argues that publishers must assume Google search traffic will hit zero due to AI changes.

Nilay Patel interviews Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleiman about the company’s strategic shift toward independent frontier model development, highlighted by the new MAI Thinking 1 release.

Eli Patel interviews New York Times reporter Ryan Mac about Elon Musk’s failed Twitter acquisition and the upcoming SpaceX IPO.

Nilay Patel interviews Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Neil Patel interviews Wasim Ben-Sayed, Rivian’s Chief Software Officer and co-CEO of the RV Tech joint venture with Volkswagen.

Nilay Patel interviews Google CEO Sundar Pichai following Google I/O, discussing the company’s structural shifts to prioritize AI and the integration of Gemini models.

Nilay Patel interviews Liz Lopato about the Musk v.

Neil Patel interviews Jonah Peretti about BuzzFeed’s sale of a 52% stake to Byron Allen for $120 million, a move that saves the cash-strapped company…

Nilay Patel interviews Brendan Ballew about his book on forced arbitration, which strips consumers of class-action rights.

Nilay Patel interviews Joanna Stern about her new book, *I Am Not a Robot*, and her independent media venture, New Things.

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Nilay Patel interviews Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshawi about the company’s evolution into an "everything app," featuring new hotel bookings via Expedia and AI-driven shopping.

In this Decoder mailbag episode, host Nilay Patel and producer Nick Statt address listener feedback on recent interviews with Superhuman and Puck CEOs.

Decoder host Nilay Patel interviews Jennifer Scanlon, CEO of UL Solutions, to demystify the century-old safety certification giant.

Nilay Patel introduces "Software Brain," a mindset that views the world through databases and code, arguing it explains the growing public disdain for AI.

Nilay Patel interviews Canva CEO Melanie Perkins about the company’s pivot from a design tool to an AI platform.

Nilay Patel interviews investigative journalist Ronan Farrow about his New Yorker profile on OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.

Nilay Patel interviews Sarah Personette, CEO of Puck, about the media company’s talent-led model that combines journalism with influencer economics.