Decoder with Nilay Patel

Ben Jordan, a musician and security researcher, discusses his investigation into Flock Safety’s automatic license plate reader network and its significant security vulnerabilities.

In this Decoder episode, host Neelai revisits a conversation with investigative journalist Ronan Farrow regarding his New Yorker profile of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.

Peter Kafka joins Decoder to analyze the closing of the Warner Bros.

Nilay Patel and Hayden Field discuss the launch of Meta’s Muse and OpenAI’s Dots, consumer AI agents built on the OpenClaw framework.

Senator Adam Schiff discusses the urgent need for robust AI regulation, arguing that voluntary industry pledges are insufficient and that Congress must create a new regulatory agency with real teeth.

Eliot Van Buskirk speaks with Nilay Patel about the AI industry’s sudden pivot toward calling for government regulation after recent security breaches.

The Verge’s Josh Cheek joins Nilay Patel to discuss the collapse of Kevin O’Leary’s massive "Wonder Valley" data center project in Utah.

Eli Pariser interviews Atlassian CEO Mike Cannon-Brooks on how AI is reshaping enterprise work, arguing that while AI automates routine tasks, it increases the value of human judgment and design.

Nilay Patel interviews Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince on how AI bots now constitute over half of internet traffic, breaking the traditional advertising business model.

Nilay Patel analyzes Mark Zuckerberg’s recent interview to highlight gaps in Meta’s strategy, focusing on the privacy risks of Meta Glasses and the company’s inconsistent stance on regulation.

Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman joins Decoder to analyze Apple’s first event under CEO John Ternus, highlighting the debut of the foldable iPhone Duo and a strategic pivot toward AI.

Nilay Patel interviews former DOJ Antitrust Chief Jonathan Cantor to dissect the AI industry’s push for antitrust exemptions.

Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, discusses the company’s new "Humanist AI Code of Conduct" and argues that AI safety requires both alignment…

Comedian Adam Conover discusses the collapse of traditional TV and the rise of YouTube as a dominant, yet inequitable, gatekeeper for entertainment.

In this mailbag episode, Nilay Patel and the production team address listener feedback on his "Software Brain" essay, debating whether AI should replace traditional user interfaces or complement them.

Eliott talks with Sonos CEO Tom Conrad about recovering from the 2024 app crisis and launching Sonos 27, a new software platform unifying hardware and software.

Nilay Patel interviews New York Governor Kathy Hochul on tech policy, covering the Meta teen safety settlement, 3D-printed ghost gun bans, and a moratorium on hyperscale data centers.

Nilay Patel interviews Hayden Field about Greg Brockman’s consolidation of power at OpenAI following massive executive turnover.

Eliot Peled interviews GoFundMe CEO Tim Cadogan about the platform’s evolution into a "load-bearing" part of American culture, particularly as a proxy for the broken healthcare system.

Neil Patel and Verge AI reporter Robert Hart discuss the existential crisis in mathematics following OpenAI’s Astra model solving ten long-standing problems.

Nilay Patel interviews Ben Smith, Editor-in-Chief of Semaphore, about his shift from chasing viral traffic to building a profitable, "anti-scale" news organization.

Nilay Patel interviews Verge AI reporter Hayden Field about Google’s major DeepMind reorganization, including Jeff Dean’s departure and Demis Hassabis’s shift to research.

Bose CEO Lila Snyder discusses the company’s strategic shift from a single-brand consumer hardware maker to a multi-brand entity including luxury acquisitions like McIntosh and Sonus Faber.

Nilay Patel interviews Verge policy reporter Gabby DeValle about the bipartisan backlash against AI data centers, exemplified by protests in Florida’s Hernando County.

Nilay Patel interviews Tony Schneider, the new CEO of Blue Sky, about balancing the company’s dual focus on its consumer app and the open AT Protocol.

Eli Patel interviews Altana CEO Evan Smith about how agentic AI is transforming global supply chain management amid escalating trade chaos and tariffs.

The Verge’s Hayden Field discusses Apple’s trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI, alleging the AI firm stole hardware designs from former employees like Tang Tan.

Nilay Patel interviews historian Jill Lepore about her book, *The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State*, which argues that quantification and big tech have eroded democratic institutions.

Neil Patel interviews Proton CTO Bart Butler on how the company balances privacy promises with the need to scale against Big Tech.

Nilay Patel interviews NVIDIA’s head of automotive, Jinju Wu, about the shift toward AI-defined vehicles and centralized computing architectures.

Neil Patel and Peter Kafka discuss Comcast’s split into separate broadband and entertainment entities, marking the end of the failed "content plus pipes" strategy.

In a special episode recorded at Cannes Lions, Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel interviews Ali Behrman and Raina Penchansky, co-heads of UTA’s Creators Division.

Decoder host Nilay Patel interviews Amy Lanzi, CEO of Digitas North America, at the Cannes Lions festival about the advertising industry's shift toward AI and data-driven results.

Eli Patel interviews Roger Daly, CEO of the newly merged Weber-Blackstone, discussing the integration of the legacy grill brand with the viral griddle company.

Decoder host Nilay Patel presents an exclusive interview between Joanna Stern and Ford CEO Jim Farley, recorded in September 2023.

Patreon CEO Jack Conte joins Nilay Patel to discuss the platform’s strategic pivot from a payment processor to a direct competitor to social media,…

Nilay Patel and Hayden Field dissect the chaotic shutdown of Anthropic’s Claude Fable 5 model following abrupt U.

Nilay Patel interviews Skydio CEO Adam Bry about the company’s shift to autonomous enterprise drones and U.

Nilay Patel shares a Channels interview with Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch, who argues that publishers must assume Google search traffic will hit zero due to AI changes.

Nilay Patel interviews Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleiman about the company’s strategic shift toward independent frontier model development, highlighted by the new MAI Thinking 1 release.

Eli Patel interviews New York Times reporter Ryan Mac about Elon Musk’s failed Twitter acquisition and the upcoming SpaceX IPO.

Nilay Patel interviews Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Neil Patel interviews Wasim Ben-Sayed, Rivian’s Chief Software Officer and co-CEO of the RV Tech joint venture with Volkswagen.

Nilay Patel interviews Google CEO Sundar Pichai following Google I/O, discussing the company’s structural shifts to prioritize AI and the integration of Gemini models.

Nilay Patel interviews Liz Lopato about the Musk v.

Neil Patel interviews Jonah Peretti about BuzzFeed’s sale of a 52% stake to Byron Allen for $120 million, a move that saves the cash-strapped company…

Nilay Patel interviews Brendan Ballew about his book on forced arbitration, which strips consumers of class-action rights.

Nilay Patel interviews Joanna Stern about her new book, *I Am Not a Robot*, and her independent media venture, New Things.

Nilay Patel and Dr.