Decoder with Nilay Patel
Episodes
Bluesky’s new CEO wants a big tent, not a bubble
Nilay Patel interviews Tony Schneider, the new CEO of Blue Sky, about balancing the company’s dual focus on its consumer app and the open AT Protocol.
The end of the human internet
Tariffs didn’t bring manufacturing jobs back to the US
Eli Patel interviews Altana CEO Evan Smith about how agentic AI is transforming global supply chain management amid escalating trade chaos and tariffs.
What Apple’s OpenAI lawsuit is really about
The Verge’s Hayden Field discusses Apple’s trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI, alleging the AI firm stole hardware designs from former employees like Tang Tan.
Dr. Jill Lepore on why the AI backlash is vital for the future
Nilay Patel interviews historian Jill Lepore about her book, *The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State*, which argues that quantification and big tech have eroded democratic institutions.
Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you
Neil Patel interviews Proton CTO Bart Butler on how the company balances privacy promises with the need to scale against Big Tech.
Yes, even Nvidia's head of automotive is fighting for compute
Nilay Patel interviews NVIDIA’s head of automotive, Jinju Wu, about the shift toward AI-defined vehicles and centralized computing architectures.
Why did Comcast ever buy NBC?
Neil Patel and Peter Kafka discuss Comcast’s split into separate broadband and entertainment entities, marking the end of the failed "content plus pipes" strategy.
Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky
In a special episode recorded at Cannes Lions, Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel interviews Ali Behrman and Raina Penchansky, co-heads of UTA’s Creators Division.
The CMO is a dying role, says Digitas' Amy Lanzi
Decoder host Nilay Patel interviews Amy Lanzi, CEO of Digitas North America, at the Cannes Lions festival about the advertising industry's shift toward AI and data-driven results.
He changed outdoor cooking forever — then took over Weber
Eli Patel interviews Roger Daly, CEO of the newly merged Weber-Blackstone, discussing the integration of the legacy grill brand with the viral griddle company.
Rewind: CEO Jim Farley on Ford's EV gamble
Decoder host Nilay Patel presents an exclusive interview between Joanna Stern and Ford CEO Jim Farley, recorded in September 2023.
Can Patreon fight fire with social media fire?
Patreon CEO Jack Conte joins Nilay Patel to discuss the platform’s strategic pivot from a payment processor to a direct competitor to social media,…
Who decides when AI is too dangerous?
Nilay Patel and Hayden Field dissect the chaotic shutdown of Anthropic’s Claude Fable 5 model following abrupt U.
Skydio CEO argues more drones will make us safer
Nilay Patel interviews Skydio CEO Adam Bry about the company’s shift to autonomous enterprise drones and U.
Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on AI, the Met Gala & his secret succession plan
Nilay Patel shares a Channels interview with Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch, who argues that publishers must assume Google search traffic will hit zero due to AI changes.
Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your job
Nilay Patel interviews Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleiman about the company’s strategic shift toward independent frontier model development, highlighted by the new MAI Thinking 1 release.
Elon Musk is steamrolling Wall Street to become a trillionaire
Eli Patel interviews New York Times reporter Ryan Mac about Elon Musk’s failed Twitter acquisition and the upcoming SpaceX IPO.
AI is blowing up music. How should the Grammys handle it?
Nilay Patel interviews Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason Jr.
Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need CarPlay or buttons
Neil Patel interviews Wasim Ben-Sayed, Rivian’s Chief Software Officer and co-CEO of the RV Tech joint venture with Volkswagen.
How Sundar Pichai is rethinking Google for the AI era
Nilay Patel interviews Google CEO Sundar Pichai following Google I/O, discussing the company’s structural shifts to prioritize AI and the integration of Gemini models.
Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing
Nilay Patel interviews Liz Lopato about the Musk v.
Exclusive: Jonah Peretti explains why he sold BuzzFeed
Neil Patel interviews Jonah Peretti about BuzzFeed’s sale of a 52% stake to Byron Allen for $120 million, a move that saves the cash-strapped company…
How companies weaponize the terms of service against you
Nilay Patel interviews Brendan Ballew about his book on forced arbitration, which strips consumers of class-action rights.
Joanna Stern is not a robot, but she lived with them
Nilay Patel interviews Joanna Stern about her new book, *I Am Not a Robot*, and her independent media venture, New Things.
Rewind: How AI is fueling an existential crisis in education
Nilay Patel and Dr.
Dara Khosrowshahi on replacing Uber drivers — and himself — with AI
Nilay Patel interviews Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshawi about the company’s evolution into an "everything app," featuring new hotel bookings via Expedia and AI-driven shopping.
How to win — or lose — Decoder
In this Decoder mailbag episode, host Nilay Patel and producer Nick Statt address listener feedback on recent interviews with Superhuman and Puck CEOs.
That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated than it looks
Decoder host Nilay Patel interviews Jennifer Scanlon, CEO of UL Solutions, to demystify the century-old safety certification giant.
THE PEOPLE DO NOT YEARN FOR AUTOMATION
Nilay Patel introduces "Software Brain," a mindset that views the world through databases and code, arguing it explains the growing public disdain for AI.
Canva's CEO on its big pivot to AI enterprise software
Nilay Patel interviews Canva CEO Melanie Perkins about the company’s pivot from a design tool to an AI platform.
Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman's "unconstrained" relationship with the truth
Nilay Patel interviews investigative journalist Ronan Farrow about his New Yorker profile on OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.
Can Puck’s CEO reinvent the news business for the influencer age?
Nilay Patel interviews Sarah Personette, CEO of Puck, about the media company’s talent-led model that combines journalism with influencer economics.