How Utah locals fought Kevin O'Leary's AI data center
Oct 1, 2026 · 44m
Summary
The Verge’s Josh Cheek joins Nilay Patel to discuss the collapse of Kevin O’Leary’s massive "Wonder Valley" data center project in Utah. Cheek explains how the project’s secretive approval process and O’Leary’s inflammatory rhetoric sparked a bipartisan grassroots backlash that halted construction. The conversation explores the broader AI infrastructure boom, highlighting how the industry’s race for speed has created "paper data centers" and alienated local communities. Ultimately, the episode reveals that local democracy and environmental concerns are becoming significant obstacles to the …
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Sponsors: CrowdStrike and Dopple
Introduction to the Stratus/Wonder Valley project
Guest intro: Josh Jeza and his reporting background
Parallels with the Foxconn Wisconsin project
How the project was approved via military land
The permitting race and state vs local conflict
Public backlash and local discovery of the project
Contrast with Foxconn: anger vs excitement
Diverse coalition of protesters and their motives
Key local activists and community dynamics
Sponsors: CrowdStrike and Pipedrive
Why the project faced such severe opposition
Political fallout and the loss of a state senator
Kevin O'Leary's retreat and legal threats
The industry race for speed and political conflict
Power land assembly and speculative paper data centers
Economics of AI and the role of hyperscalers
Infrastructure lifespan and the AI bubble question
Sponsors: Apple Watch and Upwork
Lessons for other communities facing data centers
NIMBYism vs environmental and AI concerns
Future outlook for data center opposition
Closing remarks and show promotion
Sponsor: Midi and legal disclaimers
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