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JB Pritzker thinks AI could help us live to 100 — or threaten us like nukes

Oct 19, 2026 · 59m

Summary

Nilay Patel interviews Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker about the political realignment driven by AI, privacy, and big tech. They discuss the tension between state competition for data centers and the need for government to protect citizens from surveillance and job displacement. Pritzker details Illinois’ approach to AI regulation, including its AI Safety Measures Act and the creation of an "AI Cabinet" to balance innovation with safety. The conversation also covers the challenges of managing state bureaucracy and the impact of federal inaction on state-level privacy laws.

Topics discussed

Sponsorships and show introduction Bears relocation and Illinois politics Generational political realignment and taxpayer protection Antitrust, AI regulation, and corporate power AI job displacement and economic safety nets State competition for jobs and tax incentives Government structure and the AI cabinet Navigating bureaucracy and social services AI in government services and public perception Sponsor break: Upwork and Comcast Business AI cybersecurity threats and phishing Decision-making frameworks and leadership humility Lessons from the pandemic response Privacy, surveillance, and the post-COVID shift State vs federal AI regulation efforts License plate readers and biometric privacy laws AI in healthcare and therapy ethics Sponsor breaks: CrowdStrike and Framer The failure of federal privacy legislation Data centers, NIMBYism, and energy grids Political leadership and generational change Social media regulation and school phone bans Existential risks and AI safety comparisons AGI consciousness and industry disagreements Outro and credits
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