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New York governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should be “less evil"

Aug 31, 2026 · 51m

Summary

Nilay Patel interviews New York Governor Kathy Hochul on tech policy, covering the Meta teen safety settlement, 3D-printed ghost gun bans, and a moratorium on hyperscale data centers. Hochul defends these regulations as necessary protections for youth mental health and public safety, dismissing First Amendment concerns. The discussion also addresses bipartisan backlash against surveillance technologies like Flock cameras and the need for data centers to provide greater community benefits.

Topics discussed

Sponsors and show introduction Intro: Governor Hochul and age verification context Structuring the Governor's office and hiring talent NYC vs State relations and supporting tech innovation Regulating social media for teen safety Age verification, anonymity, and parental concerns Corporate interests vs citizen privacy and safety Sponsors: 11 Labs, Superhuman, and CrowdStrike 3D printed guns, Cody Wilson, and First Amendment issues Surveillance backlash and ALPR camera controls Political realignment on data centers and surveillance Data center moratorium and community negotiation tools Using AI to streamline state government operations Sponsors: Cisco, Even Realities, and Odu Tech industry PR problems and workforce displacement anxiety Land use, NIMBYism, and lessons from cell tower regulation Election outlook and closing remarks
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