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Why Revenge Feels So Good—and Why It Hurts Us

Jul 16, 2026 · 23m

Summary

Host Dacher Keltner interviews James Kimmel Jr. about the neuroscience of revenge, which activates brain circuits similar to drug addiction. Kimmel shares his personal history of bullying and legal career to illustrate how revenge becomes a compulsive, harmful cycle. He explains that forgiveness acts as a neurobiological detox, shutting down pain networks and restoring self-control. This process offers immediate relief, allowing individuals to heal and move forward from past grievances.

Topics discussed

Host's personal story of bullying and revenge Introduction to James Kimmel Jr. and the science of revenge Sponsor messages and podcast promotions Kimmel's near-miss with lethal revenge as a teenager Law as legalized revenge and the addiction to litigation Neuroscience of revenge: brain circuits and addiction Sponsor messages and podcast promotions Neurobiological benefits of forgiveness as detox Decisional forgiveness and immediate pain relief Forgiveness as a daily practice for self-healing Preview of next episode and closing credits
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