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180. Have the US and Israel Always Spied on Each Other? (Ep 2)

Jul 29, 2026 · 51m

Summary

Hosts Gordon Corera and David McCloskey examine the Jonathan Pollard espionage case, detailing how he passed classified US naval intelligence to Israel’s LAKAM unit. They discuss his arrest, failed asylum attempt, and the life sentence he received after lying to investigators and going public. The episode explores the diplomatic fallout, Pollard’s eventual release, and the shift from human spies to technical surveillance in US-Israel relations.

Topics discussed

Introduction and recap of Jonathan Pollard's background Sponsors: HP, Carvana, and Toyota The Israeli handlers: LAKAM and Rafi Etan Mechanics of the espionage operation The classified documents stolen by Pollard Discovery, investigation, and the 'Cactus' code Failed asylum attempt and handlers fleeing Lack of an extraction plan for Pollard Plea bargain collapse and media involvement Sentencing to life imprisonment Diplomatic fallout and Israeli denial Pollard's release and move to Israel Pollard's political career and spy motivations Modern espionage vs. human intelligence Conclusion and upcoming episodes
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