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Narcissists: Are We Surrounded?

Jul 2, 2026 · 44m

Summary

Host Wendy Zuckerman and producer Rose Rimler explore the science of narcissism, featuring influencer Lee Hammack, who shares his journey with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They examine the debunked "narcissism epidemic" theory and discuss pathological traits like lack of empathy. Psychologist Craig Malkin offers strategies for dealing with narcissists, including empathy prompts and gray rocking, while highlighting therapy as a path for self-awareness.

Topics discussed

Introduction and show premise Lee's story: Diagnosing himself as a narcissist Sponsors: Quaker Oats and Duracell Defining narcissism: Traits vs. Disorder The 2008 study on the narcissism epidemic Taking the Narcissism Personality Inventory test Revisiting the epidemic claim with new data Recent trends: Narcissism is actually declining Sponsor: Indeed Pathological narcissism: Symptoms and suffering Treatment options and therapy for NPD Strategies for dealing with narcissists Conclusion and final thoughts
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