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The Woman Who Felt No Fear

Jun 11, 2026

Summary

Science Vs explores the case of SM, a woman with calcified amygdalas who appeared incapable of feeling fear. Host Wendy Zuckerman and guest Joel Werner discuss how SM remained calm during dangerous situations, including haunted houses and knife threats. However, inhaling carbon dioxide triggered intense panic, proving that fear can bypass the amygdala. This discovery challenges the long-held belief that the amygdala is the sole center for fear, suggesting multiple neural pathways for this emotion.

Topics discussed

Intro: Host's childhood ocean panic story Sponsors: Cheerios and Adobe Firefly Introducing SM: The woman with calcified amygdalas The amygdala's role in fear and SM's unique case Experiments: Facial expressions and loud noises SM's lack of fear: Snakes and spiders SM at a haunted house: No reaction to scares Real-world dangers: SM's encounters with violence Sponsors: ZepBound, Acorn TV, and SoFi The CO2 experiment: SM panics without an amygdala Conclusion: Fear is more complex than one brain region
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