Radiolab Radiolab

Atomic Artifacts

Jul 3, 2026 · 40m

Summary

Hosted by Lulu Miller and Jad Abumrad, this Radiolab episode explores the Cold War-era secret plan to save specific artifacts to preserve American identity after a nuclear attack. Producer Simon Adler investigates these historical choices and crowdsources modern opinions from veterans, historians, and Native Americans on what truly represents the nation. The discussion reveals deep divides over nationalism versus resilience, ultimately converging on the Apollo moon missions as a symbol of transcendent unity.

Topics discussed

Intro: Fire story and the mystery of a secret government project Discovery of a classified ID badge and its hidden location Cold War context: Nuclear war as a survivable event Government survival plans: Refugee camps, survival crackers, and bunker cash The 'Totems of America': Artifacts chosen to preserve national identity Break and sponsor messages Crowdsourcing new totems: Suggestions from veterans, museums, and experts Critique of the project: Jazz, spirituality, and the danger of nationalism Indigenous perspective: Oral tradition vs. written documents Conclusion: The Apollo moon landing as a symbol of unity and hope
Listen ad-free on Castria