Democrats vs Republicans: Who Is Actually More Violent? - Robert Pape #1154
Sep 24, 2026 · 1h 43m
Summary
In this episode, Chris Williamson discusses the rise of "violent populism" in America, arguing that mass support for political violence now threatens the nation more than foreign enemies. Featuring a guest from the University of Chicago’s Project on Security and Threats, the conversation analyzes new survey data revealing that 25% of Americans support force to prevent Trump from being president, while 16% support military suppression of protesters. The speakers examine recent assassination attempts and collective violence, such as January 6th, noting that perpetrators are increasingly well-…
Topics discussed
Introduction and live tour promotion
Defining the new era of political violence
Recent assassinations: Charlie Kirk and others
Distinguishing violent from ordinary populism
Revealing new survey data on violence support
Specifics: 25% support force against Trump
Bipartisan support and midterm election risks
Debating the source: Right vs Left threats
Symmetry in operations between left and right
The role of mass support in radicalizing individuals
Case study: Summer 2020 George Floyd protests
Case study: January 6th Capitol breach details
Case study: Campus protests and other incidents
Media bias and finger-pointing in reporting
The changing profile of political violence perpetrators
Social changes and fear driving radicalization
Lack of leadership against violent populism
The wildfire model: Support vs Action
Historical parallels: IRA, Weather Underground, Germany
Demographic shifts and their political impact
Economic inequality and the negative sum society
Predictions for midterms and potential escalation
Government briefings and the domestic escalation trap
Foreign interference and the Iran war impact
Trump's political strategy and domestic focus
Conclusion: Social changes as the root cause
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