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Why Human Connection Still Wins in an AI-Driven GTM World with Katrin Gurvich

Jul 27, 2026 · 52m

Summary

Host John Barrows interviews Katrin Gervich, a GTM partner at Navan, on her journey from practicing small talk as an introvert to mastering networking. They discuss why job searching is a sales process, the decline of meaningful referrals, and how AI is shifting the sales rep’s role. The conversation emphasizes building genuine human connections and personal brands over transactional outreach in today’s market.

Topics discussed

Intro and sponsor promotion for sales training Introduction of guest Katrin and small talk about Boston Origin of the conversation: RevOps alignment at RevFest Katrin's background: moving from Israel and learning social skills The decline of referrals and the importance of genuine networking Building personal brand and intentional networking strategies Hiring for grit and the impact of AI on sales roles The future of sales: human connection vs. AI efficiency Training the next generation and balancing AI adoption Closing thoughts on industry angst and final remarks
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