How to find your flow state when you’ve lost it
Oct 15, 2026 · 32m
Summary
This episode of *Your Turn* explores the science of flow, a state of effortless immersion that helps people find purpose during midlife transitions. Host Alison Aubrey interviews neuroscientist Richard Husky, who explains how the brain becomes energetically efficient during flow, and violinist Diane Allen, who shares her journey from losing her passion for classical music to rediscovering joy by composing her own work. The discussion highlights how balancing skill and challenge allows individuals to regain momentum and meaning without needing to completely reinvent themselves.
Topics discussed
Sponsor: The Visitors play
Introduction to Your Turn and the concept of flow
Diane Allen's role as concertmaster and the pressure of performance
The demanding schedule of a professional violinist
The moment Diane's arms froze on stage
Recalling an early flow state at age 15
Defining flow and Diane's midlife crisis
Quitting the orchestra and show introduction
Sponsors: Prolon, Charles Schwab, and Viking
Introduction to Dr. Richard Husky and flow research
The five key characteristics of the flow state
History of flow theory and Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
Three conditions required to achieve flow
Diane selling her violin and moving on
How flow experiences evolve across a lifespan
Measuring flow in the brain using MRI and video games
Brain connectivity during flow: control and reward
Dr. Husky's personal flow experience with data
Why flow feels effortless: metabolic efficiency
The relationship between mastery and brain energy
Preview: Finding flow after losing it
Sponsors: Prolon and Charles Schwab
Diane's dark place and midlife identity crisis
The Meow Wolf documentary and a shift in perspective
Returning to the violin and playing Leonard Cohen
Breaking classical rules and finding personal voice
Writing original music and combining it with speaking
Practical advice for finding flow in midlife
The importance of skill-challenge balance
Diane's evolving purpose from self-discovery to sharing
Midlife reflection on self-care and resilience
Conclusion: Repurposing past skills for new joy
Credits and call to action
Sponsors: Charles Schwab and NPR Politics
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