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Your perfectionism isn't a problem -- if you know how to use it

Aug 18, 2026 · 21m

Summary

Life Kit reporter Andy Tegel interviews psychotherapist Catherine Morgan Schaffler about reframing perfectionism as a neutral tool rather than a flaw. They explore five distinct perfectionist types, including classic, procrastinator, messy, intense, and Parisian, highlighting the pros and cons of each. The episode offers strategies for harnessing these traits by distinguishing between control and power, and balancing explanation with emotional expression to foster healthier connections and self-trust.

Topics discussed

Intro: Defining perfectionism and its stereotypes Guest intro: Catherine Morgan Schaffler and her book Gendered messaging and the myth of 'balance' Perfectionism as a neutral tool for change Type 1: The Classic Perfectionist Type 2: The Procrastinator Perfectionist Type 3: The Messy Perfectionist Type 4: The Intense Perfectionist Type 5: The Parisian Perfectionist Explaining vs. Expressing in communication Control vs. Power and self-trust Recap of takeaways and closing credits
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