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Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman's "unconstrained" relationship with the truth

Apr 16, 2026 · 1h 2m

Summary

Nilay Patel interviews investigative journalist Ronan Farrow about his New Yorker profile on OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. Farrow details Altman’s alleged pattern of dishonesty and the internal chaos surrounding his 2023 firing and reinstatement. The discussion highlights growing concerns about AI safety, the industry’s race to the bottom, and the urgent need for meaningful government oversight.

Topics discussed

Sponsors and intro to Decoder Introduction of Ronan Farrow and the New Yorker profile The WilmerHale report and governance failures at OpenAI Sam Altman's character and the 'sociopathic' trait Altman's ability to please conflicting groups Commercial break AI hype, AGI timelines, and product reality The firing and rehiring of Sam Altman Sexual assault allegations and board silence Investor cowardice and lack of accountability Political lobbying and the need for regulation Tech ideology and the hollowing out of government Business model viability and market incentives Comparison to fraudsters and closing thoughts
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