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Can Puck’s CEO reinvent the news business for the influencer age?

Apr 13, 2026 · 1h 14m

Summary

Nilay Patel interviews Sarah Personette, CEO of Puck, about the media company’s talent-led model that combines journalism with influencer economics. They discuss Puck’s recent acquisition of Airmail, its equity-based compensation for journalists, and the challenges of competing with platforms like Substack. Personette defends Puck’s structure as a way to maintain editorial rigor while offering creators independence and support infrastructure.

Topics discussed

Intro, ads, and guest introduction Sarah Personette's career at Facebook and Twitter Leading through the VUCA world and Twitter acquisition The history of media shifts and Puck's founding Ad break Puck's structure, Airmail acquisition, and layoffs Compensation, equity, and the Substack comparison Subscriber growth, bonuses, and distribution channels Journalism vs. influencers and portfolio strategy Profitability, future acquisitions, and conclusion
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