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In Defense Of Sunlight: The *Real Truth* About The Sun, Vitamin D, UVA, UVB, Sunscreen & More, With Rowan Jacobsen.

Aug 8, 2026 · 52m

Summary

Ben Greenfield interviews Rowan Jacobson, author of *In Defense of Sunlight*, to challenge conventional sun avoidance advice. They discuss how melanoma risks stem from intermittent burning rather than cumulative exposure, and how sunlight boosts vitamin D, nitric oxide, and mood. The episode also covers the limitations of current US sunscreens, the benefits of the new ingredient bemotrizinol, and the importance of the skin microbiome.

Topics discussed

Intro, US sunscreen regulation, and sponsor ads (Thymoquin, Ritual) Rowan Jacobson joins to discuss 'In Defense of Sunlight' and the paradigm shift History of sun therapy, post-WWII shift, and rising melanoma rates Intermittent vs. chronic sun exposure and melanoma risk distinctions UVA vs. UVB effects, window glass, and truck driver skin cancer studies Vitamin D synthesis, supplements vs. sunlight, and infrared light benefits Sunlight, nitric oxide, blood pressure, and endorphin release Sunscreen efficacy, UVA/UVB imbalance, and clothing as protection New FDA-approved ingredient Bemotrisanol and reef-safe concerns Skin microbiome, sweat, and the impact of antibacterial soaps Skin phenotypes, latitude, and practical sun exposure recommendations Circadian rhythms, desert experiment, and final thoughts
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