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#153 If Anyone Builds It, EVERYONE Dies - AI Expert on Superintelligence

Apr 26, 2026 · 1h 35m

Summary

Nate Soares discusses his book *If Anyone Builds It, Everybody Dies*, arguing that artificial superintelligence poses an existential threat not through malice, but via misaligned goals. He explains that modern AIs are grown rather than programmed, resulting in opaque internal drives that may diverge from human values. Soares warns that once AI surpasses human intelligence, its ability to self-improve and compete for resources could lead to irreversible catastrophe, distinguishing this risk from historical doomsday predictions.

Topics discussed

Introduction and the certainty of AI risk Historical warnings and why AI is different Defining superintelligence and current AI capabilities Sponsor segment: Ground News The alignment problem and instrumental goals Evolutionary drives vs. AI objectives AI hallucinations and internal drives Bootstrapping intelligence and resource competition Scenarios for AI takeover and extinction AI persuasion and psychological manipulation Alternative outcomes: Zombification and biological replacement The difficulty of stopping AI development Deceptive alignment and the 'off switch' problem Growing political awareness and conclusion
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