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#158 Could Consciousness Be an Illusion?

Jun 18, 2026 · 2h 7m

Summary

Host Alex discusses illusionism with philosopher Keith Frankish, who argues that while conscious experiences like pain are real, our intuitive view of them as private, non-physical qualia is an illusion. Frankish explains that consciousness consists of complex, evolved functional processes and introspective monitoring rather than mysterious inner properties. He uses the example of a patient regaining sight to illustrate how perceptual significance is learned, not passively received. The conversation also addresses philosophical zombies, suggesting that if a being is physically identical to …

Topics discussed

Introduction and the nature of subjective experience Sponsor segment: Ground News media bias tool The philosophical zombie argument and behavioralism The illusion of the self and consciousness Abstract objects, Sherlock Holmes, and representation Defining qualia through effects and reactions Historical origins of Cartesian dualism Emergence, AI consciousness, and conclusion
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