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The Bond Market Always Gets the Final Vote

Sep 4, 2026 · 34m

Summary

Host Jeff Schankman interviews economist Dean Baker to discuss rising bond yields and the end of the era of cheap money. They analyze how AI-driven borrowing, inflation, and geopolitical instability are driving up interest rates globally. Baker critiques Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s market interventions and argues that erratic political behavior, rather than debt levels, threatens economic stability.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The end of the age of cheap money Explaining Treasury bonds, yields, and interest rates Do budget deficits drive up interest rates? Drivers of rates: AI, inflation, oil, and political risk Shift in bond holders from central banks to private investors Treasury Secretary Bessent's bond buying strategy Fed policy, Kashkari, and the inflation vs. employment conflict Debt sustainability and the role of economic growth The tax gap and enforcement against high earners AI capital spending bubble and potential recession risks Labor market weakness and AI's impact on jobs Global bond trends and calming market volatility
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