What Now? with Trevor Noah What Now? with Trevor Noah

Malcolm Gladwell: Do Fairytales Make Adulthood Harder?

Mar 5, 2026

Summary

Trevor Noah hosts Malcolm Gladwell and Eugene Mirman, who debate why classic Disney films surpass modern ones due to their narrative digressions. Gladwell argues that data-driven streaming ignores audience engagement shifts, sharing anecdotes about his late entry into sports fandom via video games. The trio also explores the linguistic history behind accents and the surprising Jewish heritage of Billy Joel.

Topics discussed

Intro: Disney movies, Peppa Pig, and short attention spans Ad break and the origin of the podcast Malcolm Gladwell's childhood and lack of TV Trevor Noah's journey to becoming a Liverpool fan The Hillsborough Disaster and 'You'll Never Walk Alone' Accents, linguistics, and Tom Bradley's story South African languages and Trevor's family history Acting school, accents, and misconceptions about Disney Leonard Bernstein's 'Jubilee Game' and his father Moana, Anansi stories, and the concept of mischief Ad breaks and the immigrant/mischievous journalist theory Grandparents, purity, and the 'Gladwell Cut' idea Trevor's mom's twin sister and family coincidences Nature vs. Nurture, twins, and genetic diversity Monocultures in high schools and career choices Trevor's daughter's running talent and sports choices Trans women in sports and the complexity of fairness City comparisons and the need for imagination in policy Paralympics, weight classes, and defining fairness in sport Commercialization of sports, Xbox accessibility, and outro
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