Better in Person Podcast | How Gary Gulman Turned Depression Into Comedy Gold
Oct 14, 2026 · 8m
Summary
Comedian Gary Goldman joins Trevor Noah to discuss how basketball helped him recover from depression, sharing stories of his past with a cruel coach and the joy of rediscovering the sport. The pair also explore Goldman's creative process, as he reveals a notebook filled with joke ideas and walks through a bit about microwaves and toast that highlights the dark humor of capitalism.
Topics discussed
Introduction to Better in Person and guest Gary Gulman
Playing basketball in Harlem and its mental health benefits
Gary's past: switching from basketball to college football
Rediscovering the joy of basketball after depression
Show and tell: Gary's joke notebook and collage
Breaking down the 'Microwave Toast' joke structure
The 'Bathtub Suicides' punchline and its dark humor
Refining the joke: despair as a market opportunity
Closing remarks and mutual appreciation
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