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Is the A.I. Race Real?

Sep 25, 2026 · 27m

Summary

Host Lizzie O’Leary discusses the US-China AI relationship with Scott Senger, co-director of the China AI Initiative at Carnegie. They analyze why the "AI race" metaphor is flawed, contrasting China’s open-weight model strategy with US closed systems. The conversation explores divergent risk perceptions, noting that Chinese concerns focus on state control and social stability rather than existential threats. Senger highlights the importance of establishing a permanent diplomatic channel for technical exchanges and advises against grand treaties in favor of incremental, pragmatic cooperation…

Topics discussed

Intro: Journalist perspective and Slate Plus promotion Is the 'AI Race' framing useful? Expert introduction Show overview and host introduction Comparing US and China AI industry structures Open-weight vs closed-weight models and export controls Differences in AI risk perception: Existential vs societal Policy convergence: China learning from California regulations Public attitudes and the 'AI Plus' economic strategy China's diplomatic goals and status positioning Building diplomatic channels and past negotiation failures Insulating AI safety talks from broader geopolitical tensions The role of chip export controls in US policy Critique of the Cold War analogy for AI governance Advocating for step-by-step diplomacy over grand treaties Key signals to watch for in upcoming summits Credits and sign-off
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