Is the A.I. Race Real?
Sep 25, 2026 · 27m
Summary
Host Lizzie O’Leary discusses the US-China AI relationship with Scott Senger, co-director of the China AI Initiative at Carnegie. They analyze why the "AI race" metaphor is flawed, contrasting China’s open-weight model strategy with US closed systems. The conversation explores divergent risk perceptions, noting that Chinese concerns focus on state control and social stability rather than existential threats. Senger highlights the importance of establishing a permanent diplomatic channel for technical exchanges and advises against grand treaties in favor of incremental, pragmatic cooperation…
Topics discussed
Intro: Journalist perspective and Slate Plus promotion
Is the 'AI Race' framing useful? Expert introduction
Show overview and host introduction
Comparing US and China AI industry structures
Open-weight vs closed-weight models and export controls
Differences in AI risk perception: Existential vs societal
Policy convergence: China learning from California regulations
Public attitudes and the 'AI Plus' economic strategy
China's diplomatic goals and status positioning
Building diplomatic channels and past negotiation failures
Insulating AI safety talks from broader geopolitical tensions
The role of chip export controls in US policy
Critique of the Cold War analogy for AI governance
Advocating for step-by-step diplomacy over grand treaties
Key signals to watch for in upcoming summits
Credits and sign-off
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