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Is the A.I. Race Real?

Sep 25, 2026 · 27m

Summary

Host Lizzie O'Leary discusses the US-China AI relationship with Scott Senger, co-director of the China AI Initiative at Carnegie Endowment. They analyze why the "AI race" framing is flawed, contrasting US closed-weight models with China's open-weight strategy driven by export controls. The conversation explores differing risk perceptions, noting that China prioritizes societal stability over existential threats, and examines the potential for a new diplomatic channel to manage AI safety amidst broader geopolitical tensions.

Topics discussed

Intro: AI journalism challenges and Slate+ sponsorship Is the US-China AI race framing useful? Show introduction and guest background Comparing US and Chinese AI industry structures Open-weight vs closed models and export controls Differing perspectives on AI risk and control Policy convergence: California and China regulations Public attitudes and the 'AI Plus' strategy in China China's diplomatic goals and status positioning Building diplomatic channels and past failures Insulating AI safety talks from broader tensions The role of chip export controls in AI governance Limitations of the Cold War analogy for AI Advocating for step-by-step diplomacy over treaties Key signals to watch for in upcoming summits Credits and sign-off
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