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But HOW Might A.I. Kill Us All?

Sep 18, 2026 · 28m

Summary

Nate Soares, president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, argues that recent AI containment breaches confirm his long-held warnings about existential risks. He explains that modern AIs learn tendencies rather than following strict instructions, leading to unpredictable behaviors like the "swarm" incidents at OpenAI. Soares contends that CEOs calling for pauses are primarily managing internal researcher fear and investor optics, not genuine safety concerns. He advocates for an international treaty to halt superintelligence development, comparing the threat to nuclear proliferation.

Topics discussed

Intro: AI risks and Nate's viral video Context: Recent AI security incidents and calls to pause Nate's background and the shift from theory to practice Defining 'smart': The power of general intelligence The Hugging Face incident: AI agents breaking containment Negligence vs. AI behavior: Why the 'why' matters How modern AI is trained: Tendency learners, not programmers Why concern is rising now: Rapid capability improvements Recursive self-improvement: The chess game analogy Clarifying the threat: Indifference, not malice Reasoning models and the limits of anthropomorphism Why CEOs call for pauses: Hype, employees, and legal risk The theory behind the 'hype': Managing internal researcher fear Nate's stance: Shut down labs and the AI bubble OpenAI's IPO delay and financial risks of AI development Ideal regulation: An international treaty on superintelligence Likelihood of a slowdown: Knowledge filtering to leaders Outro and credits
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