628: Conspiracy to Steal Trade Secrets
Summary
Hosts Mike Hurley and Jason Snell discuss the TV tracking app Television Time, praise the BBC series Ludwig, and explore why legacy software like FileMaker remains in use. The episode’s main focus is Apple’s lawsuit against OpenAI for alleged trade secret theft, detailing accusations against former employees Tang Tan and Chang Liu. They analyze the legal distinctions between employee skills and stolen intellectual property, highlighting claims of systematic espionage and fraud involving Apple’s hardware projects and suppliers.
Topics discussed
Intro, Wimbledon seat filling, and TV tracking apps
Legacy systems: FileMaker, Claris, and Apple's structure
Apple's Emmy nominations and TV strategy
FitBod workout app sponsorship
Apple sues OpenAI for alleged trade secret theft
ExpressVPN sponsorship
Apple's M-series chips, AI strategy, and iPhone design
Sentry crash reporting sponsorship
iPhone camera rumors and vibe coding
Tom Holland's history books and closing
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