637: My Job Is to Eat the Marshmallow
Sep 14, 2026 · 1h 38m
Summary
Hosts Mike Hurley and Jason Snow celebrate the 12th anniversary of the Upgrade podcast while discussing Apple's upcoming product roadmap, including potential late-year announcements for the MacBook Pro and HomePod. They analyze reports of Apple redesigning its retail stores to prioritize the Genius Bar and online pickup, effectively reversing decisions made during the Angela Ahrendts era. The episode also features a deep dive into the iPhone Duo, with the hosts expressing excitement over the new hardware and software integration while noting the challenges developers face with the new inter…
Topics discussed
Intro, sponsors, and birthday greetings
Discussion on the new Macintosh screensaver
Saint Jude fundraising update and appeal
Speculating on upcoming Apple hardware and events
Reactions to the folding iPhone Duo reveal
Apple Store redesign and retail strategy
Ron Johnson's book and Apple retail history
Fitbod sponsorship segment
iPhone Duo design and hardware impressions
Concerns about iPhone Duo software and developer workload
Hands-on experiences and content capture with the Duo
John Ternus interviews and Apple's product philosophy
Transitional dynamics between Cook and Ternus
The 'Marshmallow' strategy for early adopters
RevenueCat sponsorship segment
Review of macOS 27, iOS 27, and Siri AI performance
Critique of Siri AI regressions on Apple Watch
macOS Golden Gate visual and productivity changes
Testing AI features: Image generation and extensions
Siri AI as a memory enhancement and third-party apps
Notion sponsorship segment
Listener questions on iPhone Duo features and market
Outro and feedback submission
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