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Tucker Carlson on his MAGA split and Trump's 'nihilism' | NPR's Newsmakers

Sep 24, 2026 · 57m

Summary

Tucker Carlson breaks with Trump over the Iran war, arguing the president was coerced by foreign interests and should have been removed for threatening nuclear strikes. Carlson details a tense Oval Office meeting where Trump dismissed the risks with nihilistic indifference, while also criticizing the U.S. for gifting munitions to Israel and the bipartisan consensus on Middle East conflict. He reflects on his past blind spots regarding the "one-party" system and discusses his friendship with VP Vance, who he believes opposed the war but remained loyal. The interview also touches on Trump’s r…

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