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Talking with the dead

Oct 14, 2026 · 38m

Summary

Host Lissa Soeb explores the ethical and emotional implications of "dead bots," AI simulations of deceased loved ones, through a global study by Cambridge professor Katarzyna Nawalczyk-Bashinska. The episode features insights from AI ethicist Tomasz Holinek and linguist Julie, who discuss how these tools might disrupt traditional grief rituals or offer new ways to process loss. While some find comfort in digital resurrection, experts warn of risks like commercial exploitation, privacy violations, and cognitive offloading that could hinder natural healing. The discussion ultimately questions…

Topics discussed

Sponsors: Amex Corporate and Google Gemini Introduction to the 'Dead Person Dinner' concept Research methodology: Global dinners on grief and AI Defining 'Deadbots' and the digital legacy industry Case study: A grieving mother's changing perspective Market size and ease of creating AI simulations Speculative design and the 'Manana' app prototype The 'Parent' prototype: Risks for children and grief Privacy, dignity, and the 'Stay' prototype for siblings Real-world harms: Suicide and consent issues The concept of 'second loss' and digital goodbye Cross-cultural findings and calls for regulation Simulating historical figures and ethical ownership Ritual as technology: Preserving memory without AI Sponsors: LinkedIn, Gatorade, and Checkout.com Interview with Dr. Julie Sedivy on language and grief Cognitive science: Memory consolidation vs. offloading Agency and passivity in AI-assisted mourning Personal anecdotes: Holding the thread of a life Conclusion: The value of silence and personal ritual
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