Fallout Director Jonathan Nolan Says He's Still a Techno-Optimist (Re-air)
Aug 25, 2026 · 53m
Summary
Wired’s editor-in-chief interviews filmmaker Jonathan Nolan about his career, from *Memento* to *Fallout*, and his views on AI. Nolan discusses why he remains a techno-optimist yet refuses to use AI for writing, citing the importance of human collaboration. He also addresses the film industry’s economic challenges, advocating for keeping production in Hollywood rather than chasing tax rebates abroad.
Topics discussed
Intro and Ad Breaks
Jonah Nolan's Career and Tech Optimism
Warm-up: Wormholes, Books, and Cars
Writing Endings and Digital Simulations
Shooting on Film vs. Digital Cameras
Sci-Fi Themes: Robots and Surveillance
The AI Inflection Point and Hype Cycles
AI as an Alien Spaceship Crash
Ad Breaks: DNB and Superhuman
Access to AI and Educational Equity
Why Jonah Nolan Won't Use AI to Write
AI Costs, Hollywood Strikes, and Collaboration
Tax Rebates and Keeping Production in Hollywood
California Incentives and Ad Breaks
Fallout: Games, 50s Nostalgia, and Fans
Political Themes in Fallout and Hope
Control Alt Delete: Regulating Deepfakes
Outro and Final Ad Breaks
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