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Kim Jong-un, crypto bros and a $6.3bn heist

Nov 4, 2026 · 25m

Summary

This episode examines the $6.3 billion Binance hack, the largest crypto heist in history, attributed to North Korea's Lazarus Group. Guardian banking correspondent Kalina Makortoff discusses the exchange's vulnerabilities and the industry's regulatory challenges, while former AP bureau chief Jean Lee explains how North Korea leverages cybercrime to fund its nuclear program and circumvent sanctions. The conversation highlights the geopolitical risks of state-sponsored hacking and the potential for a regional nuclear arms race.

Topics discussed

Introduction: North Korea's rise as a cyber superpower The $6.3 billion Binance hack and initial reaction Blaming North Korea and concerns for the nuclear program Interview with Kalina Makortoff: Understanding Binance Changpeng Zhao: Founder, prison, and pardon Why the heist matters for traditional finance and security Comparing the scale of the hack to historical heists How the hack happened: Compromised laptop and entry points Interview with Jean Lee: Reaction to the North Korean link North Korea's denial and the pattern of attribution The Lazarus Group: Origins and the Sony Pictures hack Global impact: WannaCry, NHS, and Bangladesh Bank The challenge of identifying hackers in the AI era Recruiting hackers: Patriotism and tech in North Korea How North Korea controls internet access and trains spies The hacker academy: Selecting math geniuses from school Where the money goes: Funding the nuclear weapons program Geopolitical risks: Nuclear arms race and rogue states Future outlook: Cyber theft as core economy and diplomacy Outro, credits, and sponsorships
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