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Placebo: Why ‘fake’ treatments can have real power

Jul 22, 2026 · 37m

Summary

Hosts Duboki Chakravarti and Sam Jones explore the placebo effect with guests Catherine Hall and Charlotte Blee, discussing how expectations influence clinical trial outcomes and patient care. They examine the distinction between placebo response and effect, the controversial use of open-label placebos, and the negative nocebo effect. The episode also touches on how AI chatbots and doctor-patient rapport impact these psychological phenomena in modern healthcare.

Topics discussed

Intro and Catherine Hall's acupuncture story Defining placebo effect vs. placebo response Designing sham surgeries and clinical trials Subjective vs. objective conditions and conditioning Genetics, personality, and clinician influence Ethics of using placebos in medical practice The nocebo effect and framing side effects Spirits podcast advertisement Why placebo effects are increasing over time Open-label placebos and the doctor-patient relationship Health inequities and AI chatbots in healthcare Placebo controls in AI therapy trials Tiny Show & Tell: Open-label placebos for aging Tiny Show & Tell: Glycans and HIV cognitive decline Outro and Progressive insurance ads
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