Luke Gromen & Darius Dale: How Close To The End Are We?
Sep 13, 2026 · 1h 50m
Summary
Adam Taggart hosts macro analysts Luke Groman and Darius Dale to discuss the U.S. fiscal crisis and its societal implications. They analyze the "reverse Robin Hood" wealth gap and elite overproduction, arguing these factors drive high probabilities of political violence and state collapse. While Darius predicts a bond market crisis by 2027, Luke emphasizes that true interest expenses already exceed receipts, signaling an imminent need for monetary debasement. Both agree that inflationary policy will accelerate, making finite assets like gold and equities essential for investors navigating t…
Topics discussed
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Introduction and welcome back to Thoughtful Money
Treasury market disequilibrium and paradigm shifts
True interest expense and the fiscal crisis
Debt management, inflation, and asset inequality
Social unrest, violence, and policy choices
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Historical base rates for societal collapse
Timing the bond market reckoning
Insurance sector risks and duration buyers
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Dollar dynamics, global savings, and GDP growth
Fed reaction function and yield curve control
Stablecoins as a potential Treasury demand source
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Global liquidity and the limits of stablecoins
Treasury buyer cohorts and financial repression
AI capex, productivity, and market outlook
Tax base reliance on workers and 2028 election
Investment strategy: Stocks, Gold, and Volatility
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