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Open source is going to win it all: Harvey proves it | E2328

Aug 21, 2026 · 1h 9m

Summary

Jason Calacanis and Lon Harris discuss the shift toward open-source AI, citing Harvey’s move to build proprietary models to protect client data from frontier providers like OpenAI. They analyze OpenAI’s impending IPO and the unsustainable unit economics of current AI compute costs. The episode also features a demo of Willow, a voice dictation app, and explores how AI agents are transforming workflow systems.

Topics discussed

Intro: Open source AI and sponsor reads GrokBot demo: Automating research and competitive intel Systems thinking vs. taste and CRM automation OpenAI IPO plans and the end of AI price wars Harvey AI builds proprietary models to protect client data Willow voice dictation and Genesis GV90 luxury EV Stanford student's self-driving golf cart and AI in education
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