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New Fossil Shows Birds Weren’t the Only Dinosaurs to Evolve Flight

Oct 2, 2026 · 27m

Summary

Paleontologist Steve Brusatte discusses the discovery of Nurellraptor, a four-winged feathered dinosaur that suggests bird-like flight may have evolved independently in multiple lineages. The episode explores the history of the dinosaur-bird connection, from Huxley’s early theories to the pivotal Chinese fossil finds, and examines why modern birds survived the asteroid impact while other dinosaurs perished. Brusatte also highlights evidence of complex dinosaur behaviors, such as brooding, and shares the remarkable story of the Berlin Archaeopteryx being traded for a cow.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: LinkedIn ad campaign Introduction: Birds are dinosaurs Historical context: Huxley and Darwin New discovery: Four-winged dinosaur Guest introduction: Steve Brusatte Complexity of flight evolution Description of Nurellraptor fossil Implications for flight evolution Biomechanics and gliding capabilities Independent evolution of flight traits Origin of feathers and preservation Early feather structures and function Transition to modern bird wings History of the dinosaur-bird link debate Personal reactions to Archaeopteryx Clarifying bird-hip vs lizard-hip dinosaurs Sponsor: LinkedIn ad campaign Fossil artifacts: Neck position in death Phylogenetic relationships and analogies Survival of birds after the asteroid impact The ongoing Age of Dinosaurs Dinosaur consciousness and cognitive evolution The Berlin Archaeopteryx story and outro Sponsor: AXA XL insurance
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