The Wild with Chris Morgan The Wild with Chris Morgan

A 750-mile misadventure in the Grand Canyon

Oct 13, 2026 · 1h 1m

Summary

Author Kevin Fedarko joins Chris Morgan to discuss his book, *A Walk in the Park*, detailing his grueling 750-mile trek through the Grand Canyon with photographer Pete McBride. They recount their initial failure, the community support that helped them complete the journey, and the physical dangers of navigating the canyon’s ledges. The conversation also explores the geological history of the landscape, the importance of listening to nature, and the complex threats facing the park from development and climate change.

Topics discussed

Intro: Booming podcast on AI influencers Grand Canyon overview and flash flood tragedy Geological history of the canyon layers The 750-mile trek goal and human threats Physical toll and near-failure of the hike Finding Kevin Fedarko in Bellingham Meeting Kevin and entering the woods Welcome and origin of the expedition idea Kevin and Pete's friendship and differences Contrasting personalities of the hikers Route plan: sectional hike along the wall Logistical errors with gear and boxes First night chaos and missing batteries The 'clown show' and realization of mistake The Colorado River as the canyon's artery Brutal conditions: heat, weight, and cold Giving up and admitting failure Word of failure spreads in Flagstaff Local community steps in to help Community and landscape transcend human issues Kevin's personal connection to the canyon Family history in coal mining and steel Growing up in polluted Pittsburgh Influence of John Wesley Powell's book Imagining unspoiled natural beauty Standing on a ledge without smokestacks Completing a circle with his father Return to the canyon with helpers Approaching the Great Thumb Mesa in winter No retreat: committing to the traverse Slogging through snow and danger Beauty and danger intertwined in landscape Extreme heat and cognitive decline Cooling down strategies in the desert The Colorado River's vital role Collecting water from thin potholes Always moving away from water Surviving a storm with low food Food caches and messages to hikers Near starvation and emergency signals National parks vs. amusement parks The paradox of protected dangerous places Visitor numbers and popular corridors Rarity of full canyon traverses Tourism damaging the magic of the park The conundrum of access and preservation Landscapes cannot advocate for themselves Inadequacy of previous understanding Omission of Indigenous history in books Collective crime of displacement Native tribes still present in the park Meeting a tribal guide on Bright Angel Initial dismissal of 'woo-woo' advice Realizing the importance of silence Defining natural silence Revelation of the guide's wisdom Development threats to the canyon The Confluence and proposed amphitheater Tourism as a development threat Native American component in threats Helicopter tours and tribal revenue Complexity of preservation vs. exploitation Promo for upcoming Wild episodes Moments of wanting to quit Hyponatremia from drinking too much water Low moments and rewards of the journey Suffering provides context for beauty Decision not to finish the hike The list of through-hikers and ego Mastery vs. humility in the landscape Compromise: Pete finishes, Kevin leaves a gap Meaning in not completing the journey Humility in the presence of bears Erasure of self near grizzly bears Power of a grizzly bear's presence Signal Award nomination announcement Credits and acknowledgments Outro and upcoming episode preview
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