504: Victor Davis Hanson—The Counter Revolution
Sep 22, 2026 · 1h 34m
Summary
Mike Rowe interviews Victor Davis Hanson, a classicist and raisin farmer, to discuss his new book, The Counter Revolution. They explore the disconnect between academic elites and the skilled working class, arguing that practical trades foster a vital American confidence that higher education increasingly lacks. Hanson also critiques the hollowing out of Ivy League institutions and analyzes how Trump’s populist message successfully bridged class divides by prioritizing the middle class over racial identity.
Topics discussed
Introduction and reunion with Victor Davis Hanson
Hanson's unique blend of academic and farmer perspectives
The dual identity of intellectual and raisin farmer
Urgency to read and share Hanson's new book
California's dire straits and statistical evidence
Sponsor segment: Good Ranchers and American meat
Milestone: 500th episode and spontaneous conversation
House maintenance and the grandfather's legacy
Primal skills: waterproofing and foundation work
Technological advancement vs. practical ignorance
Converting a horse manger into a studio
Disinterested professors and the college experience
The value of hands-on knowledge over degrees
Grandfather's wisdom and the first raisin crop loss
Fresno State basketball and Tarakanian
Sponsor segment: ACE scholarships and tax credits
Sponsor segment: Education Freedom and transparency
Stanford's academic environment and stress
Silicon Valley students and remedial math
Shrinking 18-year-old cohort and skilled trades
Grade inflation and the hollowing of Ivy League
Father's WWII service and B-29 missions
Brother's biology PhD and family dynamics
Wiring the dehydrator and Samuel Johnson quote
Riding in a used Bell van and childhood lessons
Heroes like Joe Rogan and wisdom vs. degrees
400,000 open jobs in the defense industrial base
Fear of the middle class and Japanese gardeners
Working class interactions and driving to LA
Mechanical aptitude and apocalyptic confidence
Rabid coyotes, pit bulls, and water disputes
Tocqueville's view on American property ownership
German mechanics and winning WWII
Russian bolt actions and T-34 tanks
Trump's 2016 prediction and middle class solidarity
Black truck drivers and Hispanic electricians
Populist nationalist message and tax on tips
Trump's office visit and blue suit anecdote
Trump's appearance and lack of hay bales
Sponsor segment: Camel City Mill socks
Trump's comfort and the McDonald's stunt
Trump as a builder and Nietzschean figure
Never Trumpers and campaign spending
Potential endorsement of El Said
Dislike of Israel and Jews
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson calls
Lunch with a prominent Never Trumper
Intense dislike and feeling betrayed
CNN show preemption and Donald Trump business
Autograph bathrobe and $38,000 auction
Steve Bannon, Elon Musk, and Michael Cohen
Transactional nature and The Art of the Deal
Most important quality in a great employee
Sponsor segment: ZipRecruiter
Mocking a reporter and daughter's reaction
John McCain's 'crazies' comment and subtext
Media as political movement and family debate
FDR, JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Stormy Daniels
Recruit shortages and vaccination policies
Gas, oil, border, and violent crime lows
Aspen fire, high-speed rail, and delays
California political establishment and ruined lives
Raiding the president's house and stickers
Steele dossier, Hunter's laptop, and hatred
Damnatio memoriae and statues coming down
French revolutionaries and renaming days
Immigrants and historical knowledge
Hagia Sophia and Turkish wealth
John McCain and Obama radio correction
Marquis of Queensberry rules and Lee Atwater
Reagan, Bush, and winning ugly
Closing remarks and book promotion
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