The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

495: Todd Rose—One Good Thing

Jul 21, 2026 · 1h 50m

Summary

Mike Rowe interviews Todd Rose, founder of the think tank Populous, about his research on "collective illusions"—false beliefs about societal division fueled by social media and foreign bots. Rose explains how private opinion data reveals that Americans are less polarized than public polls suggest, citing examples like the "defund the police" movement. The episode highlights the "Be the People" initiative, which encourages local civic action to counteract manufactured consensus and rebuild community trust.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest Todd Rose ZipRecruiter sponsorship End of Average and the jaggedness principle Good Ranchers sponsorship Collective illusions and social media K-12 sponsorship Private opinion vs public consensus NetSuite sponsorship Cognitive warfare and AI bots PureTalk sponsorship Defund the police and private truth Good Ranchers sponsorship Be The People initiative and conclusion Capital One and Ally Bank sponsorships
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