The Vergecast The Vergecast

Schools are catching onto tech’s playbook

Sep 10, 2026 · 36m

Summary

Lauren Feiner interviews NYT reporter Natasha Singer about her book *Coding Kids*, which traces the history of tech companies pushing computer science curricula into US schools. The discussion contrasts Code.org’s viral, startup-driven approach with academic efforts to broaden CS participation, highlighting how industry influence shaped education policy. Singer argues that while tech giants now pivot to AI, schools lack rigorous evidence that these tools improve learning outcomes. The episode explores the concept of "deep lobbying" and questions whether prioritizing efficiency over critical…

Topics discussed

Intro: Code.org vs. academic CS efforts 90 Seconds on The Verge: AI and tech news Sponsor reads: Indeed and Uber Eats History of tech in schools: Edison to Google Evidence on whether tech improves learning Code.org's viral launch and startup strategy Hour of Code and scaling CS in schools Academic approach: AP CS Principles creation College Board approval of tech company curricula Critique: Tech influence vs. medical industry Sponsor reads: Cisco, Square, Indeed, Uber Eats Deep lobbying and tech funding of nonprofits Efficiency vs. learning: The purpose of school The pivot to AI and impact on CS students Outlook: Teacher optimism and human-driven AI Outro and final sponsor reads
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