The Vergecast The Vergecast

Everybody wants to rule the AI world

May 8, 2026

Summary

David Pierce and Neil Apatel dissect the escalating Elon Musk vs. OpenAI trial, highlighting damning texts from the Sam Altman firing and Musk’s early exit. They discuss how AI-driven discovery is complicating legal privilege and analyze the chaotic "blip" where Mira Murati and Emmett Shear briefly led OpenAI. The hosts also debate rumors of an OpenAI phone, weighing its potential to bypass Apple’s ecosystem against current hardware limitations.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: Atio, AWS Quick, and intro Welcome to the Vergecast and episode overview OpenAI phone rumors and AI legal advice risks Elon Musk vs. OpenAI trial: Early days and equity The 2023 OpenAI board coup and Sam Altman's firing Mira Murati's role and the chaotic reinstatement OpenAI's governance failures and ChatGPT launch Ad break: LinkedIn, AWS, and Klaviyo The feasibility of an OpenAI phone vs. iPhone Apple's Siri struggles and AI integration issues Google Fitbit Air and health data collection Familiar Machines: The AI robot cat Ad break: Indeed and Vanta Star Fox 64 remake and Nintendo Switch 2 Zach Galifianakis' new Netflix show Brennan Carr, sports antitrust, and NFL rights Dreamy's rocket car and weird tech products SpaceX AI consolidation and Xbox AI Outro, upcoming live show, and final ads
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