20VC: Leading Anthropic's First Ever Round | Will Open Source Threaten Anthropic's Business | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | Why Triple, Triple, Double, Double is Not Good Enough Today | Why Series A is Hard Today with Matt Murphy @ Menlo
Jul 27, 2026 · 1h 2m
Summary
Harry Stebbings interviews Menlo partner Matt Murphy, who led Anthropic’s early investment. They discuss the high-valuation entry, using SPVs for large checks, and the shift toward a barbell strategy favoring seed and late-stage deals over Series A. Murphy also analyzes investments in Lovable and Legora, arguing that frontier models remain essential despite open-source advances.
Topics discussed
Intro and Sponsor Ads (J.P. Morgan, Corgi, Flex)
The Anthropic Investment Story and Menlo's AI Pivot
Venture Math: Ownership, Dilution, and Fund Sizing
Investment Strategy: SPVs, Guardrails, and Holding Winners
Navigating Crisis: The Anthropic DOW Moment and Market Noise
Investing in Lovable: AI Coding and Margin Structures
Model Optimization, Open Source, and Multi-Model Usage
Full Stack AI, Custom Chips, and OpenRouter
Investing in Legora: AI for Legal and Enterprise Workflows
The Barbell Strategy: Seed vs. Growth and Series A Challenges
Menlo's Firm Culture, Team Structure, and Swim Lanes
Geography: SF Renaissance vs. Europe and Relationship Building
Valuation Expectations, Regret Minimization, and Firm Growth
Quickfire: Biggest Miss, Favorite Funds, and Future of AI/Health
Outro and Sponsor Ads
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