450: ‘Perp Walk for Selfies’, With Jason Snell
Jun 23, 2026 · 2h 44m
Summary
John Gruber and Jason Snell discuss browser compatibility issues, highlighting Helium as a de-Googled Chromium alternative. They recount their experiences at WWDC, including sitting near Tim Cook and John Ternus, and reflect on the dynamics of covering Apple executives. The conversation also analyzes Apple’s AI strategy, critiquing former head John Giannandrea while praising Mike Rockwell’s overhaul of Siri.
Topics discussed
Browser wars: Safari, Chrome, and Firefox
WWDC keynote experience and Apple executive dynamics
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Tim Cook's legacy and John Ternus as CEO
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WWDC format changes and iOS software quality
Sponsor: FindList productivity app
New Apple history podcast announcement
iOS 18 beta: Siri AI, Shortcuts, and Spotlight
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