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#326 Kegan Gill - F-18 Pilot Survives Two Hours in the Atlantic With a Broken Neck

Jul 30, 2026 · 2h 59m

Summary

Host Shawn Ryan interviews Navy pilot Kagan Smurth, who survived the fastest ejection in naval aviation history. Smurth discusses his catastrophic injuries, PTSD, and recovery through ibogaine therapy, which ended his addiction. He critiques the VA’s pharmaceutical-driven approach to trauma, citing Dr. Chris Free’s work on operator syndrome. The episode covers his childhood, military training, and journey back to the cockpit.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Sundaes for Dogs Introduction: Lt. Gill's background and injuries Psychedelics in recovery and Patreon support Critique of the VA and veteran care systems Sponsor: Ultra Pouches Childhood, family, and early influences Sponsor: Water filtration systems Sponsor: Burner phone privacy app Early trauma, school struggles, and family loss Joining the Navy and flight training path Flight training, carrier landings, and tactics The F-18 crash and ejection sequence Survival in the ocean and rescue ordeal Recovery, PTSD, and VA hospital experiences Weaning off meds and returning to flight duty UFO encounters and government secrecy Spiritual perspectives and mental health decline Psychosis, paranoia, and breakdown Sponsor: Audible Involuntary commitment and VA system failures Escape from facility and initial recovery steps Sponsor: Ultra Pouches Holistic healing, psychedelics, and new purpose Supporting veterans, meditation, and conclusion
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