#326 Kegan Gill - F-18 Pilot Survives Two Hours in the Atlantic With a Broken Neck
Jul 30, 2026 · 2h 59m
Summary
Host Shawn Ryan interviews Navy pilot Kagan Smurth, who survived the fastest ejection in naval aviation history. Smurth discusses his catastrophic injuries, PTSD, and recovery through ibogaine therapy, which ended his addiction. He critiques the VA’s pharmaceutical-driven approach to trauma, citing Dr. Chris Free’s work on operator syndrome. The episode covers his childhood, military training, and journey back to the cockpit.
Topics discussed
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Introduction: Lt. Gill's background and injuries
Psychedelics in recovery and Patreon support
Critique of the VA and veteran care systems
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Childhood, family, and early influences
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Early trauma, school struggles, and family loss
Joining the Navy and flight training path
Flight training, carrier landings, and tactics
The F-18 crash and ejection sequence
Survival in the ocean and rescue ordeal
Recovery, PTSD, and VA hospital experiences
Weaning off meds and returning to flight duty
UFO encounters and government secrecy
Spiritual perspectives and mental health decline
Psychosis, paranoia, and breakdown
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Involuntary commitment and VA system failures
Escape from facility and initial recovery steps
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Holistic healing, psychedelics, and new purpose
Supporting veterans, meditation, and conclusion
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