#342 Garand Thumb - SERE Specialist on Surviving the Most Dangerous Places on Earth
Sep 24, 2026 · 3h 5m
Summary
Mike Jones, a retired Air Force special warfare veteran and popular YouTube creator, joins Shawn Ryan to discuss his unconventional path from Mormon missionary to SE specialist. They explore the grueling realities of survival training in extreme environments, including Arctic survival at -80 degrees and the physical toll of task saturation. The conversation also touches on Jones' transition from medical school to the military, his faith journey, and the practical skills required for evasion and survival.
Topics discussed
Sponsors: Edward Jones and Whole Foods Market
Introduction: Drone warfare and US-China jamming
Guest background: Mormon upbringing and faith
Early life: Nature reserves and leaving med school
Military career: SERE specialist and attack pilot
SERE training: Survival, evasion, and resistance
Extreme conditions: Cold survival and dehydration
Survival skills: Tracking, fire, and hide tanning
Desert survival: Water scarcity and purification
Sponsor: Sundays dog food
Jungle survival: Critters and evasion tactics
Famine phase and the will to survive
POW history: Vietnam and resistance training
Essential gear: The 5 items to restart civilization
Sponsor: HexClad cookware
Attack pilot role: JTAC and air support coordination
Modern warfare: Drones, field craft, and Ukraine
Preparedness: Nuclear threats and community building
Firearms discussion: M4, NGSW, and experimental rifles
Personal carry and corporate integrity stories
Sponsor: Shopify
Ukraine analysis: Drone dominance and anti-drone tech
Water security: Collection and purification methods
Community resilience: Neighborhoods and hard-copy books
Societal collapse: Human behavior and self-defense
Urban vs rural survival strategies and water sources
Outro: Call to action and show credits
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