‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan
Oct 6, 2026 · 1h 39m
Summary
Chris Ryan and Craig Korolbeck analyze The Texas Chain Saw Massacre as a perfect, ground-zero indie horror film that defined the modern slasher genre. They discuss its chaotic $60,000 production, the terrifying legacy of Leatherface, and the film’s influence on subsequent movies like Halloween. The hosts also explore the 1970s context of the film, comparing its gritty realism to other era-defining blockbusters and debating the effectiveness of its "based on true events" marketing.
Topics discussed
Intro and Tony Romo tribute
Sponsor: Whale Fall movie
Pacing and Halloween comparison
Defining the slasher genre
Horror's resurgence in Hollywood
Final girl and the igloo scene
Leatherface's physicality and looks
Leatherface vs Buffalo Bill
Rural Texas atmosphere and context
1970s film history and genres
Influence on modern cinema
Plot holes and character motivation
Serial killer stats and Netflix shows
Netflix serial killer ideas
First viewing experience
Graphic violence and censorship
The meat hook scene
Opening credits and radio reports
Harsh production conditions
Marilyn Burns' performance
The final chase sequence
Pacing of the final act
Marilyn Burns' career and nudity
Budget, box office, and reviews
Roger Ebert's review and story
Sponsors: Quince and Truvia
Hot take: Scariest character
Real-life horror stories
The hitchhiker and animal sounds
The chicken room scene
Jerry's investigation and Franklin
Gas station guy twist
Grandpa's finger and fainting
Dinner with Grandpa
Leatherface's football analogy
Comparison to Halloween ending
Retrospective: Hitchhiking
Hitchhiking in the 70s
Slaughterhouse as a location
The van and seating
Aging of the poster and props
Leatherface's masks
Camera shots and editing
Character names and titles
Sponsor: Tremfya
Awkward dinner scenes
Hitchhiker's loneliness
Lack of nudity in film
Sally's plea at dinner
Sound design and acting awards
Craig's first viewing story
Realism vs supernatural horror
Actor compensation issues
Randomness of the plot
The gimp and recasting
Post-podcast viewing habits
Gunnar Hansen's confession
Cast profit sharing
Bankruptcy and New Line Cinema
Cast conventions and memorabilia
Vote for next episode
Sequels and Leatherface's role
Cruz in the rewatch
Grandfather's smell
Priorities in the van
70s technology and nitpicks
Leatherface's movement and sequels
Voice acting and AI
Brother's reaction
The ending chase
Impact on hitchhiking
Kirk's death analysis
Double feature choices
Finding humor in horror
Society and horror movies
Intention vs execution
Current state of horror
Sponsor: Tremfya
Sponsor: Whole Foods Market
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