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Why Nuclear War Is More Likely Than You Think (with Carlo Rovelli)

Sep 24, 2026 · 18m

Summary

Professor Carlo Rovelli joins Rory Stewart to discuss the rising risk of nuclear war, arguing that the current danger exceeds that of the Cold War. They explore factors such as the shift from a two-superpower dynamic to a three-way game involving China, the integration of unreliable AI into rapid decision-making, and the geopolitical instability surrounding smaller nuclear states like Israel and North Korea. Rovelli also critiques European rearmament efforts, warning that increased military spending and far-right politics may inadvertently weaken Europe and escalate tensions with Russia.

Topics discussed

Introduction to Carlo Rovelli and the topic of nuclear war Why nuclear war feels unfashionable compared to the 1960s The risk is higher today: The 85 Seconds to Midnight context Factor 1: Political neglect and the shift from two to three superpowers Factor 2: The dangers of AI in rapid nuclear decision-making Debate: Are small nuclear states like Israel or North Korea the real risk? Rovelli's view: Big powers pose the greater existential threat Historical parallels: Rearmament in the 1930s and current European tensions Critique of European rearmament and US influence on European politics Conclusion: The blindness of political elites to impending disaster
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