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563. Britain’s Afghanistan Shame and the Jason Arday Tragedy

Aug 18, 2026 · 1h 9m

Summary

Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart discuss the fifth anniversary of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, joined by Rory’s wife Shoshana, who shares insights from her NGO work on the ground. They examine the paradox of improved security versus severe human rights abuses, particularly the ban on girls' education, and criticize Western sanctions for harming civilians. The episode concludes with an analysis of Russia’s upcoming Duma elections and Putin’s consolidation of power.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The 5th anniversary of the Kabul withdrawal Fuse Energy advertisement Rory Stewart on the legacy and lessons of the 20-year war Shoshana Dobbs on life, women, and aid under the Taliban Debate on recognizing the Taliban and the impact of sanctions The moral obligation to work in brutal regimes and the evacuation failure Outro and transition to next topics Russia's Duma election and the banning of the Yabloko party Escalation in the Black Sea and attacks on grain shipments Trump's rhetoric on North Korea and South Korea The death of Jason Arday and the media frenzy surrounding it
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