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Leon Black’s Slow Burn

Sep 15, 2026 · 25m

Summary

Bill Cohan discusses his new book, *Money to Burn*, which chronicles the rise of Apollo Global Management and the controversial relationship between co-founder Leon Black and Jeffrey Epstein. Cohan details how Black paid Epstein $158 million for financial advice, a scandal that contributed to Black’s 2021 resignation amid personal affairs and board tensions. The episode also addresses criticism from New York Times reporters who alleged Cohan had a deal with Black, which he denies, asserting that Black spoke voluntarily on the record.

Topics discussed

Intro: Leon Black, Epstein, and the new book Welcome and book overview Why Bill Cohan chose to write about Leon Black Apollo's origins and early French-backed deals Wealth, art collections, and sports team ownership The falling out between Black and Harris Sponsor break: Office Ladies podcast Return: The Epstein payment controversy The Decker report and the $158M payment Resignation triggered by the Ganyeva affair Why Black befriended Epstein and the trust issue Epstein's emails and the 2017 cutoff NYT reporters' criticism of the book Closing remarks and credits
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