The Outlaw Ocean The Outlaw Ocean

S2 Bonus: Let’s go below the surface with host Ian Urbina

Jul 30, 2025 · 46m

Summary

This episode features a conversation between producer Damon Fairless and journalist Ian Urbina, who discusses the extreme risks and guilt-driven motivation behind his investigative work on the "Outlaw Ocean." They detail Urbina's harrowing experience being kidnapped and beaten by Libyan militias while documenting the EU's outsourced migration control and the brutal detention camps in Tripoli. The discussion also covers his audacious reporting on China's distant-water fishing fleet, where he used message-in-a-bottle tactics to board squid vessels and uncover widespread forced labor and preve…

Topics discussed

Promo for CBC's Agent Layla Host introduction and meeting Ian Urbina What drives Ian Urbina to take risks Early reporting on sex trafficking in Southeast Asia Investigating the migrant crisis in Libya The story of Ali, a migrant from Ethiopia EU complicity and the Libyan Coast Guard Militia control, forced labor, and ransom The team's capture and beating in Tripoli Interrogation and isolation at the black site Modern parallels: US deportations and global trends Promo for BBC's I'm Not A Monster Introduction to the Chinese fishing fleet investigation Methods for approaching and contacting vessels Bottle throwing and communicating with crew The dangerous process of boarding the ships Conditions aboard: neglect, filth, and surveillance Forced labor, mortality, and beriberi Supply chain accountability and industry reckoning Future investigations for The Yellow Ocean
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