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Oprah and renowned psychotherapist Esther Perel on What We Really Want in a Relationship

May 26, 2026 · 1h 1m

Summary

Esther Perel joins Oprah to discuss the 20th anniversary of *Mating in Captivity*, exploring how modern technology and hyper-connectivity mask profound loneliness and hinder intimacy. They address Gen Z’s dating fatigue, the myth of the "soulmate," and the rise of AI romantic companions, highlighting a recent therapy session with a man and his chatbot. Perel advises integrating partners into existing social circles and managing expectations to sustain long-term desire.

Topics discussed

Introduction: Esther Perel and the 20th anniversary of Mating in Captivity The paradox of intimacy: Why good relationships don't guarantee desire Modern loneliness masked as hyper-connectivity and frictionless tech The decline of touch and the rise of screen-based isolation Dating advice: Why group settings are better than one-on-one interviews The myth of the soulmate: Why one partner cannot fulfill all needs Thick vs. thin love: Generational shifts in commitment and staying power Romantic relationships with AI chatbots: The idealization of love Repairing ruptures: Letting go of grudges to allow relationships to heal Re-entering dating after trauma: Trusting oneself and embracing the unknown
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