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The big deal with a big debt

Aug 31, 2026 · 17m

Summary

This episode explores the US federal debt surpassing $40 trillion, explaining how accumulated deficits drive up interest costs and private borrowing rates. Hosts Eric and Scott discuss with economists why current spending resembles covering daily expenses rather than long-term investments. They analyze the political dynamics, noting that neither party prioritizes fiscal restraint, leading to unsustainable debt growth despite past bipartisan efforts.

Topics discussed

Intro: National debt hits $40 trillion Economics 101: Deficit vs. Debt explained The cost of interest payments on debt Who holds the US debt and rising rates Is the debt an investment or just spending? Flaws in the household budget analogy Future risks: Crowding out private borrowers Political history: Tax cuts and deficit growth Why politicians avoid cutting spending Mandatory spending and potential solutions
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